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Sunday, November 13, 2011

Arguing with a fool

Jack Kemp

I repost here comments to my recent blog piece about Occupy Atlanta tuberculosis on Tea Party Nation. Here's an exchange between myself annd a "wonderkid" from Connecticut. First his myopic argument with no documentation, then my 2 replies, taking his assumptions - for the sake of argument - to be true.

Comment by Corey S 1 hour ago
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Only 10% of people exposed to TB will ever have the active disease. Latent infections can become active eventually, so even those without symptoms should receive medical care. People with very low body weight or diabetes are far more vulnerable.

As to it being on the rise, in 2010 there were the fewest recorded cases since 1953. Hawaii had the highest rate of TB. People born in four foreign-born countries accounted for about half of the cases: Mexico, the Philippines, India,, and Vietnam. Of ethnic groups, Asians had the highest case rate by far.
Or should I not be confusing you with the facts?
Comment by Jack Kemp 43 minutes ago

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Corey, your own "facts" say that only 10 percent of those exposed will get TB. So if 200 people are at Occupy Wall St. in a given city, "only" 20 will get it - as opposed to "only zero percent" who would get it if places like Zuccotti Park were open. So if you were in a college class of 32 people, "only 3 people would get TB if exposed to it. The word "only" applies if you personally are one those who don't get the disease in the class. Would you return to that classroom if "only" 10 percent were getting TB?
And those people with the highest recorded cases of TB in the USA are often among the illegal immigrant population with recorded cases being often lower than actual cases.

People with low body weight are far more vulnerable? How about people who sleep in filth and defecate outside their tightly packed tents - are they more vulnerable?

Stop cherry picking facts to make yourself feel good, Corey. The only one confused here is you.
The NY Times said on Friday that:

"Dr. Philip M. Tierno Jr., the director of clinical microbiology and immunology at NYU Langone Medical Center, said the conditions could leave park-dwellers susceptible to respiratory viruses; norovirus, the so-called winter vomiting virus, which can lead to vomiting and diarrhea and which could quickly overwhelm the limited bathroom facilities in the area; and tuberculosis, which is more common in indigent populations and can be spread by coughing."

You can read the entire Times article at

I'll take my facts from Dr. Tierno and not an internet leftist troll like you.
Comment by Jack Kemp 24 minutes ago
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"Only 10 percent" exposed get TB? Hey, Corey, what if a supermarket near you advertised that "only" ten percent of their products caused food poisoning? Would you shop there?

And I'm assuming, for the sake of argument, that your 10 percent figure is correct. You have supplied no documentation to prove it. And you didn't supply any documentation for your previous claim that no one at Occupy Atlanta got TB. A press release by the organizers has one big problem: the TB germs can't read it and believe it. Frankly, you argue like a small child. You make little sense and offer no proof/documentation. I don't even know if I will bother to reply to any future comments of yours.

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