Working in Mexico
Much of this whole debate on illegal aliens has centered on fairness. Proponents of illegal immigration argue that it is unfair to prevent willing people from working here in the United States, or preventing employers from employing that labor. Well, what is fair? It seems fairness only goes one way with our neighbor to the south.
Our friend, the Southern Agrarian had this to say about working in Mexico:
The following is an outline of what it would cost you and your family in time, money and rights to become a legal worker in Mexico. Contrast this process with the ‘down-trodden’ illegal worker in America.
I spent five years working in Mexico. I worked under a tourist visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval. During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country.
My wife was the same except she could NOT get a permit to work.
To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals (not copies):
Birth certificates for my wife and I;
Marriage certificate;
High school transcripts and proof of graduation;
College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation;
Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year;
A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indicating I had no arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good standing;" and
Finally, I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it, "I am the greatest person on earth letter. It was fun to write.
All of the above had to be submitted in English which then had to be translated into Spanish and certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on the right.
Once this paper work was completed, my wife and I spent about five hours, accompanied by a Mexican attorney, touring Mexican government office locations. We had to be photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each location (and we remember at least four locations), we were instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences.
We could not protest any of the government's actions or we would be committing a felony.
We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs in Laredo Texas. This meant we rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods.
There were extensive fees involved here that my company had to pay.
We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.
We were required to get a Mexican driver’s license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the licensing agency to come to our headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, we were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six-dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road.
Our only instruction was to never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.
We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The company’s Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. It was about twenty legal size pages annually.
The FM3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees. Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.
It was a real adventure and if any of our senators or congressmen went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.
The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at the President’s residence or government offices but do protest daily in front of the United States Embassy.
The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress. During most protests the Mexican military surrounds the block, standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the US Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV.
There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting.
Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California or Texas.
Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being hard on illegal immigrants.
Our friend, the Southern Agrarian had this to say about working in Mexico:
The following is an outline of what it would cost you and your family in time, money and rights to become a legal worker in Mexico. Contrast this process with the ‘down-trodden’ illegal worker in America.
I spent five years working in Mexico. I worked under a tourist visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval. During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country.
My wife was the same except she could NOT get a permit to work.
To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals (not copies):
Birth certificates for my wife and I;
Marriage certificate;
High school transcripts and proof of graduation;
College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation;
Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year;
A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indicating I had no arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good standing;" and
Finally, I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it, "I am the greatest person on earth letter. It was fun to write.
All of the above had to be submitted in English which then had to be translated into Spanish and certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on the right.
Once this paper work was completed, my wife and I spent about five hours, accompanied by a Mexican attorney, touring Mexican government office locations. We had to be photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each location (and we remember at least four locations), we were instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences.
We could not protest any of the government's actions or we would be committing a felony.
We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs in Laredo Texas. This meant we rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods.
There were extensive fees involved here that my company had to pay.
We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.
We were required to get a Mexican driver’s license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the licensing agency to come to our headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, we were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six-dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road.
Our only instruction was to never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.
We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The company’s Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. It was about twenty legal size pages annually.
The FM3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees. Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.
It was a real adventure and if any of our senators or congressmen went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.
The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at the President’s residence or government offices but do protest daily in front of the United States Embassy.
The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress. During most protests the Mexican military surrounds the block, standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the US Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV.
There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting.
Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California or Texas.
Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being hard on illegal immigrants.
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You mean the MCLU didn't rush to these people's aid?
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